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Luke 17 If and When

by Rev. Will. Harrison Jr.
10/07/06
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Luke 17:
3. Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

Here again we see that “for the time being” the Lord Jesus allows a member of the Brethren to not only trespass in some way without an instant consequence from Him personally, yet not without a rebuke for the act [and in this case and maybe others], from the person who was wronged. We see it also says “If” he trespass against you. That doesn’t necessarily mean that it doesn’t apply “when” he commits the trespass as has been suggested in 1 John 2:1 and other places in 1 John where it says “If” instead of when. I believe that the Spirit inspired the Apostle to use the term “If” because of the Lords awareness of our inclinations and His clear intent that we have the right attitude and response to sin in our lives, and because of this it would be wiser to say “If” instead of “when” we sin. [ see also 1 John esp. the first three chapters] But that doesn’t necessarily mean that it doesn’t apply to both cases.

The trespass and the rebuke are both behaviors/responses that are not likely to be seen after the New Heavens and the New Earth and may not even be seen in Heaven as it is now, but again “for the time being’ God “suffereth” [original terminology Romanized aphiemi Pronounced af-ee'-ay-mee ] us in these areas. And because we all still will be in some sort of training until at least the end of the thousand year reign of Christ on the earth there will be a lot of this “allowing” going on. We all have literally hundreds of new habits and experiences to go through.

Then Jesus says, “If” he repents, forgive him. Again we do not know if this also applies if it were said “when” he repents. I personally believe it does. Either way the point being given here from Jesus is the sequence and process that should take place and generally how to deal with them, especially the individuals involved far more than issues of “timing”. The sequence and what the nature of them is far more important than the speed. Many people unconsciously [maybe] insist only on an instant response of repentance yet a longer wait for the rebuke. This is how we can so easily complicate things.

I also feel here that there should be an interest in a student of the Bible and it’s principles to examine the particular views and values of the Lord and his definitions of such things as true repentance, rebuke, forgive, if and when, etc. We all too often automatically lean on our own understanding in most matters and likewise our own definitions and applications of these things. We must also never forget that the Bible says clearly that God, three-in-one does not think like we do, nor react and respond as we do, nor define and apply like we do, etc. and so on. And because of these highly critical facts we must not ignore the need to study to show ourselves approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth.

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Trudy (a daughter of Christ)
08 Oct 2006
Another insightful piece may God bless our hearts and minds and give us the gift of wisdom and understanding. So often I too write from my understanding of the scripture for so many of us are not Bible students.

So a lot to take from your message, may the Holy Spirit help us understand the Word and break it to us to eat.God is so BIG who can ever fathom His heart, mind and spirit?
God bless and keep sharing your wisdom for all to learn.
Trudy
Sharon McClean
08 Oct 2006
Hi Pastor Harrison Jr., I so agree with you! We very desperatly need to study to show ourselves approved to GOD, a worker that needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. For His thoughts are not our thought nor are His ways our ways. We need to learn His ways and His thoughts. Blessings, Sharon

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