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Scripture referencing

Post by TracePezzali » Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:33 pm

Hi Jan

What is the acceptable way to reference scripture in a piece of fiction? It seems customary to show this in brackets right next to the Word, but in a publishable novel, is there a way around this? I want my character to use scripture as dialogue in many places. Is it possible to use subtle markings and footnotes rather then part of the story itself giving the reference? Whatever is less distracting to the flow of the story...
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Re: Scripture referencing

Post by Deb Porter » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:00 pm

Just popping in to comment on this. Never reference the scripture in the body of fiction. It immediately breaks the fiction connection with the reader. In other words, it subconsciously gets in the way of the story.

If you feel it necessary, give a list of the scriptures at the end of the book, chapter by chapter, or have your character explain where it is, in some way (but not in a preachy/teachy way). If in a short story, mention the Scripture references at the bottom in an author's note, but don't even add an asterisk to the scripture in the actual story.

For non-fiction, it's a totally different thing. :D

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Re: Scripture referencing

Post by glorybee » Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:11 pm

What Deb said. :D
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Re: Scripture referencing

Post by TracePezzali » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:42 am

:superhappy YES!!!! That's sooooo the answer I wanted. :thankssign
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Re: Scripture referencing

Post by Cinnamon Bear » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:54 am

Deb Porter wrote:Just popping in to comment on this. Never reference the scripture in the body of fiction. It immediately breaks the fiction connection with the reader. In other words, it subconsciously gets in the way of the story.

If you feel it necessary, give a list of the scriptures at the end of the book, chapter by chapter, or have your character explain where it is, in some way (but not in a preachy/teachy way). If in a short story, mention the Scripture references at the bottom in an author's note, but don't even add an asterisk to the scripture in the actual story.

For non-fiction, it's a totally different thing.

Arrgh! Not only have I been referencing scripture incorrectly in my own entries, I have been giving other people bad advice as well. :sofa

All this time, I have been under the misapprehension that scripture references can appear in the body of a fiction or poem entry. In fact, I thought that if I directly quote or paraphrase scripture, that I must provide a reference.

I've been using footnotes in poems and fiction too. If there is more than one reference--from scripture or other source--how can they be distinguished other than by numbered footnotes?

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Re: Scripture referencing

Post by glorybee » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:49 pm

You're correct that you must provide a reference. I would simply list them, by chapters, at the end of the book.

And of course, at the beginning or the end of your list of scripture references, you'll want to include the appropriate permission statement from your chosen version(s) of the Bible. This website gives links to the precise working of those permission statements.

You could do something like this:

Scripture References (All NIV):

Ch. 1 -- Romans 12:1, John 3:16, Psalm 100
Ch. 2 -- Genesis 1:1, Lamentations 3: 22-23

The reader would have to figure out if they're looking up the first, second, or third use of scripture in that particular chapter, but that's no great hardship, I think.

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Scripture references (all KJV, unless noted):

Ch. 1 -- Romans 12:1, John 3:16 (RSV), Psalm 100
Ch. 2 -- Genesis 1:1, Lamentations 3: 22-23
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Re: Scripture referencing

Post by Cinnamon Bear » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:01 pm

Thanks, Jan!

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