Are women to be silent in the church?
by Justin Thomley
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A. Absolutely not! People need to start understanding who's writing which letter containing the letters of Paul to the churches and the churches to Paul. Just because it's all in one book, does not make it from the apostle! People need to understand the time in history they are reading! The # 1 source for correspondence was through letter in those days. They also need to understand that Paul was not a man who just led you to the Lord and then vanished. When he led a group to the Lord such as the church of Corinth, he saw you threw your walk until death do you part! What a great Christian he was! Many of the letters were from churches unto Paul and then Paul's letter's to churches; which mostly consisted of correction. He was not afraid to rebuke with correction out of love! Something we lack today and need! Paul was a great teacher and the people under him were called disciples, which mean: (learner or student). Therefore he would right back and forth correcting them, teaching them and guiding them! So with that being said let us go to the word. When in doubt, search it out!
Here is the # 1 scripture that is misinterpreted the most,(1 Corinthians 14:34-35), which says; 34."Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.35. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." This was the Church or Corinth's letter to Paul, not Paul's letter to them! Most people stop right there. Not reading the most important message next; which is in fact Paul's letter back to them. 36. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37.If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.STOP! At the end of v.34. you will notice that they said: "be under obedience as also saith the law"! First off those who are in Christ are not under the law but are under Grace, which is of the Lord,(Romans 6:14)! These people clearly were still under the OT laws and standards of men. That is why Paul said: "the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord". You will also notice his shocking "What? came the word of God out from you? Or came the word of God only to you? In others words Paul is not talking about them being the Priest in the church and what have you; but yet he is talking about men and women in the church. By saying God can fill anybody with his spirit and who are you to think as a male human that God cannot use a woman because she is female. This is clearly a battle of the sex's that they in their ways of the old laws were trying to keep. Which were not laws of God in those days, but were manmade laws, that is not of God. When Christ came to earth and accented our body became the temple of God,(1 Corinthians 3:16). Not to mention Jesus proving that when he said: "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up",( John 2:19). Not a manmade structure of stone and wood, that cracks and crumbles and rots! Therefore his Spirit can manifest himself both in men and women. From the days of Pentecost up till now! Clearly Paul was trying to explain that to them in a previous letter, but they chose not to listen! So he had to correct them again. If that was wrong and Paul being a great minister of the Lord, then Paul himself would be wrong. For it is Paul who said: help those women which laboured with me in the gospel,(Philippians 4:3).
Again, another misunderstanding of scripture. This time from about covering your head???? Let's find out about that one!
(1 Corinthians ch.11)
Paul's letter to them.
1Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. 2Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you. 3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Corinthian's letter to Paul.
4Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. 5But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 7For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. 9Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. 10For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. 11Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.12For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
Paul's letter back to them.
13Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? 14Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?(insinuating that they have long hair, you see, so who are they to say anything.) 15But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. 16But if any man seem to be contentious (quarrelsome), we have no such custom, neither the churches of God. 17Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. 18For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it..............
Give me a break people! Read all of it when you read!!! This has got to stop!
If you would like to see Paul further rebuke them, then look in your bible and read the rest from v.18.
"I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy(Joel 2:28),(Acts 2:17). God said it. not me!!!!
Everlastingly in the Presence of Jahovah,
Apostle Justin Thomley
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Dead wrong,... plain and simple.
If it's not right, than why are you speaking in these matters?
Your revised article provides a significantly more complete presentation for your readers.
It seems as if you are responding to something specific, but it is not explained here. There is not really a presentation of the argument that you want to refute, nor an exposition of the scripture quoted to explain how it supports your position.