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A heated Christian argument, WWJD?
by hannah mcclure
11/09/08
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Here is a blog I came upon on one of my daily internet searches. It just dissapoints me so much with what is going on in our country. Christians being confused about being christian, fake acting christians, and christians who are christlike one minute and then the next are acting like they dont even know Him. Let this encourage you to want to know him better.

After I read the blog I made a reply of my own. I felt like its what God told me to say, and its important.



Post OK OK How many here are....... ................ ...

Danimal-

I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.




JAUGA-

Danimal, are you Christian?






WAYWARD CLAM-

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I am religious but I do not follow any "organized" religions. If there is a God (and I think there must be) then I don't believe that any of the mainstream religions have any true concept of what He/She/It/Whatever is actually like.
__________________
Flash! Don't heckle the supervillain!


Kyr0n-

To tell you the truth, i dont know what i am anymore
__________________
"Computers are useless, they can only give you answers"
-Pablo Picasso


SHADOWKING-


I am, but I do not believe that I am better than anyone else, or look down my nose at anyone.

Jesus was condemned as a party animal who hung out with all the low life's of society. When asked why, he said "They that are whole have no need of a physician, but they that are sick."

The commercialization of Christianity today has lost the true meaning of what it really is. Being a Christian is ALL about really loving people and understanding them. Its about giving others an opportunity to be forgiven and live a guilt free life. Anyone who is "holier than thou" is going totally against what the faith stands for.

I know each one of you knows someone who is a real Christian, who lives their faith and truly loves others. They are not perfect, but they really want to do the right thing. They have an inner joy and stability that only God can provide.
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"If you have been tempted into evil, fly from it. It is not falling into the water, but lying in it, that drowns"



LIGHTBULB-

I am also a Christian (evangelical, for those who care).

I completely agree with Matt's (ShadowKing) insight. Being a Christian means following Christ's precepts and example. Jesus himself constantly reminded his peers of the dangers of "religion" for religion's sake.

True christianity (salvation by grace) is the only belief system where one cannot accomplish anything to earn it, apart from repenting from your sins and allowing God to lead your life.

For those who are curious, the Bible is the only collection of books on a same topic which support and reinforce each other with no obvious discrepencies. It contains 60 books written by more than 40 authors from different walks of life (from kings to shepherds) throughout a 2000 year period. (numbers are approximate)

Try finding another series of books that speaks on life which can attest that it has never had a need for "updating" - there aren't.

If you truly want to know who God is and what His plan was in creating mankind in the first place, read it for yourself.

Don't let others tell you how it is and don't try to wrap God in your own perspective. Find out from the source.

A learning experience is one of those things that say, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' -Douglas Adams



MACGYVER-

Cool
Well said Ad3pT!

I am an evangelical Christian as well. I wonder how many others there are that surf WinDrivers...



STALEMATE-



Well said Ad3pT!

I am an evangelical Christian as well. I wonder how many others there are that surf WinDrivers...
Well I think there's a good number of us.

I assume that we just prefer not to be blatanly obvious (and obnoxious) about it all the time.

Let your behaviour speak instead...

A learning experience is one of those things that say, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' -Douglas Adams



EMPHYMUS 2-

Well not to offend buy I'm an atheist

The Artisan formerly known as A+Tech.




SNOOPER2-

well i am christian and i am very happy about it thats how i found my wife(or did she find me?), but we have been happily married for a year now and i thank god for her everyday.

Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a difference in the world, but the Marines don't have that problem.- Ronald




STUDENT 2-

Well not to offend buy I'm an atheist
Why would that offend me? I don't believe in you.

^Southern Baptist and proud of it

"Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. "




RIOT-

I'm a Christian. I don't have anything fancy or cool to say or a quote to quote. I believe in Jesus Christ as my personal savior. I guess that's pretty cool....




NEUROMANERIV-



Talking
Polytheist here. (note: not pan-theist)
"Teach the ignorant, care for the dumb, punish the stupid."
-how to live a life well spent




LAROMMI BLOG-


Not sure what you would call me.

I do not condemn religion or those that choose to believe. I think it is everyone’s right to believe what he or she will. All I ask is that you respect me in the same way and not cram your beliefs down my throat. As far as I am concerned certain churches and religious beliefs gained the popularity they did because they had better armies to kill and beat down those that did not believe. Who is to say that one religion is better than another. Why do most people believe in one god when you look to ancient history and see many gods? Go pick up a book on Mythology. Almost every culture in the past had multiple gods.

Stories of the bible and miracles are things that happened that cannot be explained by science. The stories are old and dated. Most of them are based on what people perceive an ancient writing or event to be. It is more based in opinion than fact. Organized religion in my opinion is based on money, power and the ability to control people.

Then there are those that find religion to be good if it is convenient to them. If, it does not interfere with their schedule. Those that say they believe in god and the bible then steal, judge others, sleep around and basically think that obeying 9 out of 10 commandments is good enough. I know what the rules of the Catholic Church and Mormons and others are. I took a comparative religion class because even though I choose to not believe I find it fascinating. 9 out of 10 people that I know that say they are religious are only that way when it suits them.

Back to what you would call me, I am not sure agnostic is right but this is what I believe:

-I do not believe in Heaven so I cannot believe in Hell.
-I do not believe in God but I do believe there was a Jesus Christ.
-I do not believe in church but I believe in some of what they stand for.
-I do not believe that I need a priest, pastor, minister or cult leader to tell me how to live. I am a decent person who has never harmed another person and I believe that everyone has a right to live their life to the fullest with out harming themselves or those around them. I do not kill or destroy nature for the heck of it. I do not sleep with other men’s wives. I do not steal…Not even from Napster. I will always help my fellow man, even those that I do not like.
-I do believe in the human spirit. I do think that the spirit is an energy that everyone has good or bad. After we die I think the spirit lives on as energy is not created or destroyed.

So, label me as you will, I cannot stop you. I call you all friends until you prove me wrong. Never the other way around. I do not judge and I do not hate. I am who I am.




WAYWARD CLAM- BLOG USER


the Bible is the only collection of books on a same topic which support and reinforce each other with no obvious discrepencies.
Ad3pT, I respect you and you speak intelligently here, but this statement is simply not true. I believe that you can be a good person and believe in the Bible, follow it, and preach it. But over the millenia it's been so hopelessly screwed up and mistranslated that it's about as reliable as AOL software.

That's not to say that one shouldn't aspire to the ideals proclaimed in the Bible. It's just that those who use it as, pardon the expression, "gospel truth" are just gonna screw up the world. One has to understand the whole ideas behind it and work intelligently with them rather than blindly following words that have become garbled over time.

Don't heckle the supervillain!


Wow.


Can you believe the convictions of these so called christians? Jesus would not approve of that if he were there. Now read what I had to say.

What is the matter with you people? All I've seen is arguments. I thought it was about time I stepped in. I can see your all confused. Nothing but whines, argue, grr, grr, grrrrrrrrr. You need to stop complaining. Ok, let me ask you something. If God was right here, right now, would he look at you and say yeah, I believe in gay marriage, yeah I believe in homosexuality, yeah I believe in being faithless, yeah I believe in not going to church, yeah I dont believe in the holy spirit. Jesus once said you stupid people! How can you be so blind and not see? You must BELIEVE. You must DO what I tell you to do, you must not judge each other. For when the lord comes it will be quicker then the blink of an eye. Theres lots of corruption and satan getting into peoples heads nowadays. Oh its ok to do that, oh just a little bit wont hurt. Satans real you better believe it. And hes trying the best he can to send people straight to hell with him and hes doing a good job at it. IN the Bible it says theres not one that is good. Not one. I believe it. No one is acting like God. I think the only person who is Billy graham and the missionaries. If you want a good example of Christian look at them. Missionaries give up their lives for God and their beliefs. Would you give up your life for God? When you get to heaven and your standing before Gods throne are you going to be ashamed of what you've done. That one vote that killed one more baby by voting for democratic party. When you find out your vote and everyone elses vote killed 10 billion babies, when you look straight into the faces of those babies you killed in heaven. When you look down at the fiery pit you will see all those gay people that you voted for, screaming in pain because of their sin. There was homos in the Bible . Sodom and Gomorrah. The guys tried making out with Gods angels, and God killed them. He did. So are you believing a lie? If you believe in these you are. And if your a non christian know that these are things christians dont do. True christians believe in Christ that he died for their sins, and they are cleansed in his blood so that they will never sin again. They are perfect in Gods sight. Beaming examples of Christ. When I say Christ you better think of what I said, let me say it again.

CHRIST CHRIST CHRIST CHRIST CHRIST CHRIST CHRIST CHRIST CHRIST GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS.

Now what does that bring to your head? Love, patience, clean thoughts, happiness, purity. That is God. When you say Lord I believe that I have dont wrong and please forgive me of my sins. You better believe it. God sees you.
He SEES YOU, AND EVERYTHING YOU DO.

Now I hope I have spoken to you in the way Jesus Christ did. I hope you believe or you are just like the pharisees. They were followers of the law but they still sinned and stole money from the pharisees.

Since I am a Christian and a very strong one at that. I'd like to tell you, I believe in Christ, I am by the grace of God not turned away from him. Are you facing him or turning away from Him? I dont care what any of you have to say. Any person I've ever argued with I dont care what they have to say unless it has to do with God. God says that humans say things humans want to say. We're all just made of dust. The only one I'm going to listen to is God. And whoever argues with me is arguing from themselves and their human ways. I'm not Worldly. I am a angel. And anything you say doesnt offend me, it makes me laugh. I laugh long and hard. Because I know God will give me a trophey in heaven it says so in the Bible.

Sometimes Jesus yelled at the people not acting like christians. Now I'm going to do that.
YOU CHRISTIANS WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE YOU HYPOCRITES, YOU CONVERTS, YOU DEMON WANNABIES, YOU DISGUSTING PEOPLE! YOU DIRTY MINDS! GET OFF YOUR FAT BUTT AND TELL PEOPLE ABOUT CHRIST. STOP LOFFING AROUND. YOU ARE GOING TO HELL IF YOU DONT CHANGE, NOW BE WITH ME OR BEAT IT.
This is something all christians need to realize. This is the end of times. You gotta believe in God. Now heres something else for you.
GOD IS REAL! GOD IS REAL! GOD IS REAL! GOD IS REAL! GOD IS REAL! GOD IS REAL!

I'm not even going to hear what kind of argument you have to say. Because this is the first time and last time posting in the post. I hope you think over your sinful selves. If Jesus was here he wouldnt be mellow with the way your acting . If he went into the churches and saw them teaching about how gay rights is right he would tear that church down just like he did the temple, and say

What are you doing in my fathers house? This is for my father only!!!!!!!!!

Now I hope you see how wrong you are. I am only 18 but I know who Christ is you hypocrites. Call me weird, dumb, silly, mental, retarded, unbiblical, unsympathetic to others, judgemental, or whatever you want to say. But Gods on my side and your just yelling at yourself because you are using the examples of satan. Now when I say satan in this next paragraph think about what first pops up into your mind.

SATAN! SATAN! SATAN! SATAN!SARAN!

Evil corruption, homosexuality, etc. etc.

Look at yourself and look at your mind. God is the only one who helps us and gives us gifts. Without him we're worthless. Remember,

GOD IS REAL! GOD IS REAL! GOD IS REAL! GOD IS REAL!

If you died today, are you absolutely certain that you would go to heaven? You can be! TRUST JESUS NOW

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