Conversation With an Atheist
by Carlton Pruitt
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Last month a man responded to one of my videos where brother Eddie was preaching in San Francisco.
Here are the questions and comments and my responses.
I say if you believe in some ancient fairytale and some magic sky man while denying modern science then you are more than a fool…
This individual then quotes my street preaching brother Eddie- "Don't you know that the Bible says you have to repent of homosexuality? Of lying? Anger and lust?"
ATHEIST- "All those things you mentioned are part of human nature, why did God make us like that if it wasn't good? It doesn't make any sense."
Carlton-A lot of things occur in human nature but that doesn't make them normal or right. Homosexuality, lying, lust are wrong simply because God says they are wrong. God doesn't make us sinful. We sin because by nature we love what makes us feel good and sin is fun to the wicked. The righteous hate sin because it grieves their Creator and it is contrary to His will and purposes. Incidentally the Bible isn't opposed to true science. In fact true science confirms the veracity and accuracy of the Bible again and again through archeological discoveries etc. Read some of Ken Ham's work or Henry Morris from a scientific viewpoint.
Carlton- Yes, people choose to sin whether it be to lie or to get drunk or to commit acts of sexual immorality including homosexual acts. Nobody forces you to sin. A person may have a predilection for certain sins for example a person's father may be an alcoholic and so that sin or genetic predisposition may run in the family but that is no excuse with God. Our first parents, after all, Adam and Eve were the first sinners and God imputes their sin and guilt to the human race. What they did you and I would have done. We're no better by nature without God working His efficacious grace in our hearts to avoid sin. Free will is what God gave Adam and Eve and what happened as a result? They sinned. We need God to intervene on our behalf and He did in the person of His son Jesus Christ. There is no sin too great that can not be overcome by the grace of God. Seek the Lord while He may be found and pray for a new heart and desire to obey God. Search yourself and see how wicked you are and how disobedient to God's law you are. Jer. 17:9 says: "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked; who can know it?"
ATHEIST- People can choose to drink, murder, and have sex. However people cannot choose who they are attracted to. Why would god damn us for the "sins" of our parents? Your god does not want us to "sin" correct? You said free will creates sin, and if god knows everything then he knew we would sin because of our free will. So god is condemning us for our own human nature, thats a dick move right there. Why should I pray? If god knows everything then there is no need for prayer. Besides, all prayers pretty much go like this "Dear god, sorry I can't defy my human nature and live up to impossible standards." Also quoting scripture to an atheist is useless. First, prove god is real, then, prove your religion is the right one, that includes explaining the many contradictions in the Bible, and why god, the supposed "good guy" has killed more people in the Bible than anyone else including satan.
Carlton- Your lust is the problem. You must repent and be satisfied with that which God approves. You lust after sinful things. If you lust after the same sex or if you lust after money or beauty or power then you only reveal your own wicked heart. "For the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked; who can know it?" Jer. 17:9
Even a man who lusts after a woman before or after marriage sins. "Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death." James 1:15 Heart sins are wrong too because God wants a pure heart. False religion judges only by appearances but true religion is heart religion.
"Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." Hebrews 13:4
Christians pray because God commands it and He wants us to depend upon Him for everything. The attempt to be independent from God is what gets us in trouble like our first parents Adam and Eve. They believed the Devil's lie who said they would be like god declaring their own self-sufficiency and independence. They wanted to decide for themselves what was right and wrong but God has already done that. Just obey His word. If you can not then you must confess your sin, misery and weakness and ask Him for help. If you continue in sin and rebellion He has a right to destroy you for your sin because the justice of God demands it. God is holy and just by nature and you are not but God has paid the price for sin by the death of His Son Jesus Christ. Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life; nobody comes to the Father but by me." John 14:6
ATHEIST- But why is it wrong to lust? According to the Bible, your god gave us a sex drive so how is being attracted to something bad? Your using the whole "if god says so then it's just" argument. The god of the Bible is NOT good. He kills more people than anyone else in the Bible, even satan. Why? For stupid reason like "they sinned". Ya stupid! You created them so they can sin so don't blame us for sinning when you're the one who enabled it! Also, please don't quote scripture, it doesn't have any effect on an atheist.
Carlton- Don't blame God for your sin but rather mourn because of it and you might find grace and mercy but you must seek it first above all things. You are selfish by nature and love your sin and so are far from God your Creator. Repent and trust in God and His word and believe it instead of trying to justify your rebellion. God says to love Him with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself, that is, seek the good of your neighbor and keep God's law. Your problem is you have no true faith or you would not argue and quibble as you do. Read the Bible through 3 or 4 times and you'll begin to see more and more of its validity. "The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward." Psalm 19:7-11
ATHEIST-I can blame god for any and everything I do because he gave us free will. Not only that but he knows everything we are going to do before we even do it. If god really objected he would come down personally and tell me so. And why would you want to fear god? I love my parents without fear why does my relationship with god have to be the same. You tell me I'll go to hell and to accept your book but your not the first. How do you know that Thor or Zeus or Allah aren't the real god?
Carlton- Blaming God will do you no good. There is no strength in such foolish thinking. Adam had a free will but not you. After Adam's fall we sinned all and became the servants of sin and self. (Romans 3:23)
You are not free except to sin and do evil but this is contrary to God's revealed will and it brings DEATH for "the soul that sins, it shall DIE." (Ezekiel 18:20; Romans 6:23) Your excuses for sin and pleasing yourself will not stand in the judgment.
"Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. For the LORD knows the way of the righteous but the way of the ungodly shall PERISH!" Psalm 1:5
The fear of the LORD is to depart from evil. Fear in the right sense is to show a holy reverence or respect to God because of who He is. God is beautiful in His holiness and righteousness. God is only good by nature.
"I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:" Isaiah 45:5
ATHEIST- How am I foolish? It makes sense, if god didn't want us to act a certain way he shouldn't have enabled it. Why is that so hard to understand? Yeah your god is so great damn the whole human species because the first batch didn't work the way he wanted to. That is unfair and evil you should be ashamed to claim you follow such an evil god. I will not be judged by a god because god does not exist. End of story.
Carlton- You deceive yourself by trying to convince yourself that God doesn't exist because you do not want to face God at the judgment. You know there is a God who created you. That is hard wired into your being and only by suppressing such knowledge can you attempt to soothe your evil conscience. Such a belief will damn your soul forever. Is that what you want? You've probably used God's name in vain by swearing. If God doesn't exist then why use a name when there is no reality behind it? God's plan of redemption is wonderfully wise. He allowed sin but only to show man's weakness and nothingness apart from His grace. He left us not without hope but sent His son to redeem sinner from their sins that they might live. That is true love. Jesus said: "Greater love hath no man than this that a man lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends IF YOU DO WHATSOEVER I COMMAND YOU." John 15:13
ATHEIST- If it was obvious that god was real I would still be a christian. I'm not ignoring any feeling in me, we don't have any factual evidence for the existence of a god and that's why I'm an atheist. You call me evil but you don't even know me. Yes I've done "bad" things but I've definitely done more good than evil so if a god was real, we would be cool. I use god's name in vain not because I hate him, but because it's part of our culture, I grew up with saying it, it's instinctive almost. Why would god need to show our weakness if he knows everything? Yes, real love is unnecessarily sacrificing your son that's also you somehow, instead of showing up to everyone and telling them you love them and proving it.
Carlton- God's existence is obvious to those who have faith. You do not have faith and so can not please God. Pray for faith. Pray for repentance or you will perish forever after you leave this life at physical death. Life is short and death is certain. Your life is without meaning apart from God. Give Him the glory due His name. Listen to Eddie preach again and pray for the Holy Spirit that you might have eternal life because you are going to stand before God and without His Spirit and His righteousness you will be found a sinner, condemned by God's law.
ATHEIST- by definition is belief without evidence. So you're saying that the existence of god is obvious to delusional or gullible people? I did pray for faith, for a sign, anything to show me he existed and you know what? Absolutely nothing happened. I tried, and if your god would send me to hell or the lake of fire just because of that then he is truly evil, especially since I asked him many many times. Life's purpose is what you decide it is. I decided that life's purpose is to make me and my friends and family as happy as they can be. That's my purpose. If your god does exist, I hope he knows that I tried and I hope that he wouldn't condemn me because I just couldn't believe.
Carlton- You may not believe now but don't give up seeking God. God is good and His goodness leads people to repentance as it did me. I was wayward and going to hell but God showed me favor.
Pray for faith.
Pray for a hatred of sin and begin examining your heart and life and see that it is far short of where it should be according to God's standard.
Read the Bible Psalm 119 and Genesis 1-10 and then the gospel of John. Pray for understanding. God knows your heart and if you are serious about your soul's standing with Him. Not all men have faith but it is given by grace to those who are of a broken heart.
"For by grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves; it is a gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast." Eph 2:8-9
A broken and a contrite heart God will not despise. Are you broken and mourning for your sin?
Blessed are they that mourn for they shall be comforted. (Matthew 5) I would also seek to walk with wise men if you wish to be wise and heaven bound. Stop following the foolish crowd which seeks to do evil. This world has nothing for me. I trust you come to see this also. Only in God can we find peace and eternal life when once we know our sins have been forgiven by the repentance and faith that comes from God alone.
"Godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation" . . . —2 Corinthians 7:10
Carlton Pruitt ministers the gospel to the Los Angeles area. Formerly a Hollywood actor (SAG member)and junk removal expert he now spends most of his time studying the scriptures, writing articles, hymns and poems and doing street preaching.
See all his videos on http://www.youtube.com Type LAStreetPreacher in the search bar. CONTACT at Carlton2061@gmail
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