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Gospel of John cont 6
by J LD
01/28/14
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*  John 8:13 & 17-18 - 'The pharisees challenged him, "Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid." & ( Jesus replies) "In your own law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me."'

When the pharisees challenged Jesus, they actually questioned him in order to find a reason to accuse him. They knew to be careful because they were among a crowd that included supporters of Jesus, so this verse was translated in error. So, the verse should have been: 'The pharisees challenged him, "Are you appearing as your own witness? If so, then your testimony is not valid. It is written that two others who are credible must testify on your behalf, so that people will know that what you say is true and that you're not just making up lies. So, where are your witnesses?"

And I believe Jesus was not including himself as a witness when he named his 2 witnesses because of this statement "Even IF I testify on my own behalf..." Therefore, I believe John 8:17-18 was written 'Indeed the law requires the testimony of two witnesses to support it as truth. The work I am doing testifies for myself and my other witness is the Father who sent me.' Christ was speaking figuratively when he referred the work he was doing as being one of the witnesses. The works of God is Spirit, so, in another words he was saying that the Spirit was one witness while the Father was the other.

*  John 8:28- 'So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me."

Mankind is unable to lift or exalt anyone because only God is able to exalt or lift someone. So, I believe the verse should have been 'When you see the Son of Man exalted (or lifted), then you will know I am he and that I do nothing of my own accord but speak just what the Father told me."

Again, the author makes another mention about being 'lifted up' but if the reader understands how Moses lifted the serpent that turned into a staff, they will better understand how God also lifts mankind up to turn them into a different being. Only when a man is lifted up by God, will people know what they have said and done is valid and true. This is speaking figuratively. When the serpent turned into a staff, it became straight and supported in the hands of the one who yielded it. God makes his instruments straight and supports those he yields in his hands so that they never fall. And Christ confirms this statement in John 10:28-29 when he claims "...no one can snatch them out of my hand... no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand..." Therefore, the verse was written wrong when Jesus said, "When you have lifted up..." because it's not mankind that does the lifting, its God. And he is the only one who can exalt one to be above another, which is why Christ also taught people to not exalt themselves but better to be humble, than God having to humble them. So, it doesn't make any sense for me to believe that Christ expected us to exalt one person when we cannot even lift ourselves, therefore, I believe the correction I made is the right verse.

 


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