DO WE LOSE SOMETHING IN TRANSLATION
by Verna Mull
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When Jesus was preaching by the lake of Geneserat, He entered into Simon Peter’s ship, and sat and preached from there. Luke 5:3KJV,
The thing that particularly got my attention, was the fact that Jesus told Peter to let down his nets(plural) Luke 5:4KJV Now when he had left speaking, He said unto Simon, launch out into the deep, and let down your nets (plural) for a draught. First, Simon Peter complained that they had been fishing all night, and hadn’t caught anything. Then, he said “nevertheless, at thy Word, I will let down the net (singular)” Luke 5:5KJV.
Then, in verse 6, we are told they caught so many fish that the net broke. It appears that Peter did not have faith enough to lower all of the nets, and, because of not following specific instructions, his net broke.
Compare this with another instance in John 21KJV, where Jesus told the disciples to cast their net (singular), on the right side of the ship. They caught 153 large fish, and yet the net was not broken. Why was this fact mentioned? Perhaps, from remembering Peters experience, when he let down one net; when he had been told “nets”. This time, Jesus used the word net, in the singular, and the net did not break, even though it was so full of fish, the disciples expected it to break!
I see many great lessons in these situations. One lesson, Christ expects total obedience for things to go smooth in our lives. He still blesses us with partial obedience, but helps us to see the difference, and strive to do better. It also shows us the loss we receive if we disobey Him. I Samuel 15:22KJV And Samuel said, Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.”
This incident also reminds us of the scripture which says, “Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.” Matthew 6:33KJV This is a lesson which we all need to learn.
Following Christ is much greater than seeking for our work to supply our needs. When we seek Him with our whole heart, he blesses us with material gain. Every good and perfect gift comes from Him.
To me, this drives home the importance of seeking the mind of Christ. Romans 8:6KJV The mind of the sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace.
Romans 8:6 KJV For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Romans 12:2KJV And be not conformed to this world; but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Ephesians 4:22,23,KJV That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; and be renewed in the spirit of your mind.
Philippians 2:5 KJV Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus.
Now that I have made use of these Scriptures for my own edification, I checked several other translations.
Some translated Luke 5:3, 4 in such a way that I would never have gotten this “lesson” from it.
One or two translations stated that Peter actually lowered the nets (plural) which gives no contrast to what Jesus said, and what Peter did. One translation states that Simon did as Christ commanded.
Now, if the new translations are correct, why the broken net in Luke, and the amazement of the disciples in John 21, because the net was not broken?
It seems to me, that one little “s” (or lack of it) could change the whole impact of the two accounts. I feel that there can be a great lesson in being “sold out” to “Christ in the KJV, where I lose that impact in those that drop or add an “s”
One good thing, perhaps, we are commanded to “Search the scriptures………………” John 5:39 Well, the many translations have led me to really search, and seek God for the true meaning.
Have a great day!
Many are the lessons,
Which we often miss.
Not searching for the answers
In such a time as this!
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I am curious if Peter let down the net (singular) why the next verse says and when they (plural) had done this, they...and their net brake? 4Now when he had left speaking, he said unto Simon, Launch out into the deep, and let down your NETS (Diktuon) for a draught. 5And Simon answering said unto him, Master, we have toiled all the night, and have taken nothing: nevertheless at thy word I will let down THE NET (Diktuon) 6And when they had this done, they inclosed a great multitude of fishes: and their NET (Diktuon) brake
Verna: You said, "Now, if the new translations are correct, why the broken net in Luke, and the amazement of the disciples in John 21, because the net was not broken?" In the Luke story, Jesus asked Peter, his brother Andrew, James and John to follow Him...and He would meke them fishers of men...this was during the start of His ministry. The beautiful part of that story was that, although Peter was the pro fisherman...and jesus was not, Peter TRUSTED JESUS. He said, Never the less, at your command, I will do what you say." We do things OUR way, but we need to TRUST JESUS. The John 21 story is AFTER Jesus was crucified...3.5 years after the Luke incident. We get this from verse 14:"This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead." Hopefully, this will shed some light on the stories. John Tyler
I never noticed that, Verna! Wow! Never think that you can't learn anything new from the Bible. Let us throw all of our nets on the other side of the boat and expect great things from God. Not to control God for our selfish purposes but to make an impact and reel in the most souls for the Kingdom. :)
I never noticed that - incredible insights and I am so glad that you share this! Keep writing, Verna, these are a blessing - past time for my quiet time now! Marijo
Verna: I looked up the verses in the KJV to find the root Greek word for NET or NETS , and it is â€śDiktuonâ€ťâ€¦meaning â€śa netâ€ť. The word Diktuon is found in each of the verses in Luke from verse 1-11, so you might be rightâ€¦the singular and plurality have the same root word. So, it must have been lost in translation. And Jesus saw TWO SHIPS standing by the lake: but the fishermen were gone out of them, and were washing their NETS. (Diktuon) 3-And Jesus entered into ONE of the ships, which was Simon's, and prayed him that he would thrust out a little from the land. And he sat down, and taught the people out of the ship. 4Now when he had left speaking, he said unto Simon, Launch out into the deep, and let down your NETS (Diktuon) for a draught. 5And Simon answering said unto him, Master, we have toiled all the night, and have taken nothing: nevertheless at thy word I will let down THE NET (Diktuon) 6And when they had this done, they inclosed a great multitude of fishes: and their NET (Diktuon) brake The same Greek word Diktuon or ONE NET is used also in the same accounts written in Matthew 4, Mark 1 and John 21. That said, I admire your ability to spot this as it leads one to believe there might be a contradiction in the Bibleâ€¦which there is not. John Tyler