swfdoc1 wrote:... as a self-described charismatic ...
If someone tells me I am wrong, I would assume a lot of reasons before I assumed narcissism ...
Yes, Jesus sure didn't hold back any when pointing out peoples' erroneous religious doctrines!
Paul was much more tactful, as explained in the opening of the OP.
I would be very interested in a list of your points of disagreement with the OP.
Note: including Scripture references would have made the long and boring OP 5 times longer.
Things seem a bit garbled or at cross-purposes here. I’m not sure how the quotations from my post relate to your comments about Jesus and Paul. But, as for your second point, I won’t provide a list of all points of MY disagreement, since they would fall under both of my categories: 1) those within the pale of orthodoxy, and 2) those which are wrong, although perhaps only through mis-writing (under any orthodox view). But I will give EXAMPLES of both categories.
For the first category, I will not use an example of MY disagreement, but of OTHERS’ disagreement. And it is the example that was most easily spotted in your OP and which you have already pointed out: Once saved, always saved vs. once saved, not always saved. I happen to agree with you: one can give away his salvation. BUT that doesn’t make it a FACT. That makes it one camp in a hotly debated theological issue.
(By the way, I suspected you, but did not want to falsely accuse you, of having this agenda. Now that you’ve admitted it, I might say, this was very likely the main reason people did not respond—we’ve duked this out over and over again in this forum.)
For the second category, I would mention as (to me) the easiest example. God did not “gr[o]w tired of having their sins atoned for through the blood sacrifices of countless animals.” Since you did not provide Scriptures, I’m not SURE where you are getting this idea. But I would GUESS it is from Isa. 1:11 and/or similar passages. In fact, in some versions of Isa. 1:11, it even says “I am tired of the blood of bulls and sheep and goats.” Even were this a good translation and even were “I am tired of” and “I have grown tired of” equivalent expressions, it still wouldn’t make it true that God grew tired of blood sacrifices. We know this because the Bible must interpret the Bible, or put differently, individual verses of the Bible must be interpreted by all the other verses of the Bible. We know that an individual verse of the Bible does not always mean what it appears to mean on its face in isolation.
Since I’m not 100% sure you are relying on Isa. 1:11 or similar verses for your assertion, I may already be rebutting an argument you are not thinking of, so I’ll rely on just 2 of many examples. Several verses tell us that God “repents,” yet the rest of Scripture tell us that God is sinless and thus has no need to repent. Gen. 18: 20-21 tells us that God had to go to Sodom and Gomorah to investigate whether a report He had heard was true. Yet the rest of Scripture tells us God is omniscient.
Similarly here, if even if you use a version that says that “God grew tired” of animal sacrifices, the rest of Scripture tells us, among other things that 1) the Law (of which the sacrifice system was a key part) was a tutor in place until the proper time (Gal. 3:23-25), and that the sacrifice of Christ was ordained from before the foundation of the world (I Pet. 1: 18-20), not some sort of plan B because God grew tired of animal sacrifice.