We can be saved and not be very good disciples, but you can't be a true disciple without being saved
Hi Ralph, welcome. I'm not sure if I even believe this anymore, that is the part about a Christian being "not a very good disciple," some may call it being a carnal Christian...
RC Sproul wrote:"We all sin, but if we have been born of the Spirit, we are no longer slaves to that sin. We can no longer say to God, “I cannot help it. I am dominated by the power of sin.” If we are still in a condition of slavery to sin, then we are not regenerated"
I think the quote from Dr. Sproul aptly applies since the point of both his and my quotes are to say no regenerate Christian lives a life in slavery to sin.
I still think Sproul comments do not apply.
Ralph...Saved, but not always a good disciple...
Sproul ...If saved, no longer slaves to sin. If slaves, not regenerated.
How does Sproul address the discipleship part? By saying no Christian is dominated by the power of sin? Of course not. Apples and oranges, in my view. Sproul addresess regeneration. Ralph and I are beyond that step to the next step of being a disciple. And sometimes regenerates are not always good disciples...Peter, for an example, doubting Thomas for another.
Oh, and one other point. The "no longer slaves to sin" part has more to do with the price Christ paid to redeem us from the marketplace of sin, and not so much about what we do to "unslave" ourselves. The statement is a status statement, and not condemnatory. "See," Christ's says. "I died so that you are no longer slaves and owned by sin."
Even, if as believers (and believers have said it) we say to God, "I can't help it," then God replies. "Yes you can, not because of what you have done or will do, but because of what my Son has already done. You have a new Master." And this Master
, will not allow sin to have dominion over us. In some sense, we're only onlookers, not participants in the transfer of owership.