iRoswell wrote:I do want to say that I'm neither Calvinist or Armenian.
Every time I think I've got it, a curve ball is thrown at me.
Your Signature: "Reality doesn't care if you believe in it."
Yes, perhaps everyone agrees that because of the Scriptures ...
the truth about this has to be some combination of both election and free will.
How about? ...
The elected person has free will to CHOOSE to accept (or reject) God's free gift of grace-faith.
Then, if he/she does decide to accept it, he/she has free will to CHOOSE to co-operate
(or not co-operate) with the Holy Spirit in going through the sanctification process.
This is a combination of God's election and man's free will choices.
IMO, the quote in your signature would be much more accurate, if stated:
"The Truth doesn't care if you believe in it."
(In reality, there are truthful ideas/statements and erroneous ideas/statements.)
The problem, as I see it, with your statement is in not really showing God's sovereignty. You said, elect, but yet the person can reject... Calvinist teach a doctrine called irresistible grace. If God calls you, you can not help but come. Your statement is in every regard an Armenian one. There is always a choice. But the Bible says in Romans 8:29-30
"For God knew His people in advance, and He chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. And having chosen them, He called them to come to Him. And having called them, He gave them right standing with himself. And having given them right standing, He gave them His glory."
You see, it's Scriptures like that that give me pause when headed down an Armenian path. Then there are Scriptures like John 1:12
"But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God."
Showing a choice we make to become children.
God knows and I trust Him. So until He gives me insight through His Word, I'll just keep on keeping on!!!
As for my signature, I enjoy reading Star Wars books and that is a quote from one of the characters in it named Boba Fett.